Pin Oak Hunting Retriever Club

       This is a copied version of the 21 Rule Proposals sent out by the HRC Running Rules Committee. This version is for reference only. The original rules were in various formats and were converted and copied here. Refer to the copies your club president received from your Regional Running Rules Rep.  Your club will submit it's votes on the ballot provided by your Regional Running Rules Rep. 

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2020 Rule Proposal #1

Finished Quartering

Date: _3-18-2019___________________

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Submitted by:_Glenda Mitchell_, Field Rep___Region:__12_____

(Submitted and Sponsored by - Please include Club or Homeclub if individual)*

Current Rule  - Reference - page and paragraph number in the  Current  Rulebook.

Page 51-52  Paragraph VII_________________________________________________________

Current Rule Wording:  “Quartering. The dog hunts in a radius ideally from 10 to 30 yards to the side and in front of the handler. The live bird is released (or thrown) in full view of the dog. The distance from the bird to the

dog should be within scenting distance when the bird is released. The dog is  required to be steady to shot. The dog should immediately return to the previous hunting range upon being called and/or whistle commanded by the handler. The handler shoots a popper, but the bird is not killed (for the dog’s safety). If the dog does not immediately return to the hunting area, it fails the test. The dog should be eager, hunt all available cover diligently, and be under control. The intent of the quartering test is not to demonstrate running a pattern. The intent of this test is to demonstrate its natural tendency to hunt and be under control.  In the Upland game test, the quartering and walk-up can be combined.  One or more dogs can be in a moving line with one dog out front quartering, for example.

However, gun safety should be a paramount consideration..”                                  

Proposed Change:  Remove the verbiage ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Justification:  ___Quartering is not  used in Finished testing.    ______________________________

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Running Rules proposals may be sponsored and submitted by:  an HRC Club, U.K.C., Inc., Executive Committee Members, HRC/UKC Field Representatives and HRC Members in good standing.

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2020 Rule Proposal #2

Finished Quartering and Tracking 

Date: __3-18-2019__________________

Submitted by:_Glenda Mitchell, Field Rep_______Region:__12_____

(Submitted and Sponsored by - Please include Club or Homeclub if individual)*

Current Rule  - Reference - page and paragraph number in the  Current  Rulebook.

Page 50 Paragraph 8, XII _________________________________________________________

Current Rule Wording:  “The Upland game test shall consist of a simulated walk-up hunt with subsequent quartering or tracking test..”                                   ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Proposed Change:  _“The Upland game test shall consist of a simulated walk-up hunt.”      __________________

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Justification:  ___Tracking and quartering are not used in Finished testing.    ______________________________

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Running Rules proposals may be sponsored and submitted by:  an HRC Club, U.K.C., Inc., Executive Committee Members, HRC/UKC Field Representatives and HRC Members in good standing.

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2020 Rule Proposal #3

Grand Cripples

Date: ___3-18-2019_________________

Submitted by:__Glenda Mitchell    Field Rep__Region:__12_____

(Submitted and Sponsored by - Please include Club or Homeclub if individual)*

Current Rule  - Reference - page and paragraph number in the  Current  Rulebook.

Page 58  Paragraph X_________________________________________________________

Current Rule Wording:  “X. Testing may duplicate a cripple retrieve.”                                  

Proposed Change: 

Remove the verbiage ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Justification:  ___Cripples are not used_____________________________

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Running Rules proposals may be sponsored and submitted by:  an HRC Club, U.K.C., Inc., Executive Committee Members, HRC/UKC Field Representatives and HRC Members in good standing.

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2020 Rule Proposal #4

Grand Release of the retriever 

Date: ___03/18/2019________

Submitted by:_______Pat Johnson_____________________________________________

____________Three Rivers HRC______________________________________Region:__9A___

(Submitted and Sponsored by - Please include Club or Homeclub if individual)*

Current Rule  - Reference - page and paragraph number in the  Current  Rulebook.

Page 56  Paragraph 3_________________________________________________________

Current Rule Wording:  “On the judges’ signal, the hunting retriever is

to be released by the handler, or perform as otherwise directed by the judges.”                                  

Proposed Change: 

“The hunting retriever is to be released by the handler, or perform as otherwise directed by the judges.”_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Justification:  ___The retrievers are not released on the judges signal as they are instructed in the briefing as to when the retriever is to be released to make the retrieve.                        _____________________________________

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Running Rules proposals may be sponsored and submitted by:  an HRC Club, U.K.C., Inc., Executive Committee Members, HRC/UKC Field Representatives and HRC Members in good standing.

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2020 Rule Proposal #5

Grand Steadiness

Date: __03/18/2019_______

Submitted by:_____Pat Johnson__________________________________________________

_________________Three Rivers HRC________________________________Region:_9A____

(Submitted and Sponsored by - Please include Club or Homeclub if individual)*

Current Rule  - Reference - page and paragraph number in the  Current  Rulebook.

Page 57  Paragraph III_________________________________________________________

Current Rule Wording:  “The Grand hunting retriever is required to be steady at the retrieving line.”                                  

Proposed Change:  The Grand hunting retriever is required to be steady at all times.” _______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Justification:  ___The retriever must be steady in all parts of the Grand testing_____________________________

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Running Rules proposals may be sponsored and submitted by:  an HRC Club, U.K.C., Inc., Executive Committee Members, HRC/UKC Field Representatives and HRC Members in good standing.

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2020 Rule Proposal #6

Seasoned Crippled Bird 2019

Date: ___03/18/2019______

Submitted by:____Pat Johnson_____________________________________________

_________________Three Rivers HRC__________________________________Region:__9A___

(Submitted and Sponsored by - Please include Club or Homeclub if individual)*

Current Rule  - Reference - page and paragraph number in the  Current  Rulebook.

Page 45 Paragraph 4, II _________________________________________________________

Current Rule Wording:  “During a test when a crippled bird is escaping the judges can send the dog prior to the bird hitting the ground.”                                   ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Proposed Change:  _Remove the sentence                           ____________________________________________

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Justification:  ___Cripples are not used in Seasoned testing.    __________________________________________

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Running Rules proposals may be sponsored and submitted by:  an HRC Club, U.K.C., Inc., Executive Committee Members, HRC/UKC Field Representatives and HRC Members in good standing.

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2020 Rule Proposal #7

Seasoned Quartering

Date: ____3/18/2019___________

Submitted by:_____Glen Scarborough___________________________________

__________________Four States HRC___________________________________Region:__9___

(Submitted and Sponsored by - Please include Club or Homeclub if individual)*

Current Rule  - Reference - page and paragraph number in the  Current  Rulebook.

Page 46 Paragraph 9, IX _________________________________________________________

Current Rule Wording:  “Quartering. The dog hunts in a radius ideally from 10 to 30 yards to the side and in front of the handler. The live bird is released (or thrown) in full view of the dog. The distance from the bird to the

dog should be within scenting distance when the bird is released. The dog is not required to be steady to shot. The dog should immediately return to the previous hunting range upon being called and/or whistle commanded by the handler. The handler shoots a popper, but the bird is not killed (for the dog’s safety). If the dog does not immediately return to the hunting area, it fails the test. The dog should be eager, hunt all available cover diligently, and be under control. The intent of the quartering test is not to demonstrate running a pattern. The intent of this test is to demonstrate its natural tendency to hunt and be under control.  In the Upland game test, the quartering and walk-up can be combined.  One or more dogs can be in a moving line with one dog out front quartering, for example.

However, gun safety should be a paramount consideration..”                                  

Proposed Change:  Remove the verbiage ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Justification:  ___Quartering is not  used in Seasoned testing.    ______________________________

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Running Rules proposals may be sponsored and submitted by:  an HRC Club, U.K.C., Inc., Executive Committee Members, HRC/UKC Field Representatives and HRC Members in good standing.

HUNTING RETRIEVER CLUB, INC.

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2020 Rule Proposal #8

Seasoned Upland

Date: ___03/18/2019________

Submitted by:_____Glen Scarborough_________________________________________________

_________________Four States HRC_______________________________________Region:__9___

(Submitted and Sponsored by - Please include Club or Homeclub if individual)*

Current Rule  - Reference - page and paragraph number in the  Current  Rulebook.

Page 41 Paragraph 4, _________________________________________________________

Current Rule Wording:  “DESCRITION” “IF AN UPLAND GAME TEST IS TO BE RUN, THIS OPTION MUST BE ANNOUCED ON THE CLUB’S PREMIUM.”                                   ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Proposed Change:  _Remove the sentence                           ____________________________________________

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Justification:  ___Upland is not used in Seasoned testing.       __________________________________________

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Running Rules proposals may be sponsored and submitted by:  an HRC Club, U.K.C., Inc., Executive Committee Members, HRC/UKC Field Representatives and HRC Members in good standing.

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2020 Rule Proposal #9

Started Casting 

Date: ____3/18/2019________

Submitted by:______Glen Scarborough______________________________________________

___________________Four States HRC____________________________________Region:__9___

(Submitted and Sponsored by - Please include Club or Homeclub if individual)*

Current Rule  - Reference - page and paragraph number in the  Current  Rulebook.

Page 39  Paragraph VIII_________________________________________________________

Current Rule Wording:  “The hunting retriever can be cast from the retrieving line a maximum of two (2) times.”                                  

Proposed Change: 

__” The hunting retriever can be cast from the retrieving line a maximum of two (2) times per bird.” ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Justification:  _To clarify the retriever can be sent twice per bird.                _

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Running Rules proposals may be sponsored and submitted by:  an HRC Club, U.K.C., Inc., Executive Committee Members, HRC/UKC Field Representatives and HRC Members in good standing.

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2020 Rule Proposal #10

Started Steadiness

Date: ____03/18/2019____

Submitted by:______Jimbo Earles___________________________________________________

___________________Cajun HRC__________________________________________Region:_10____

(Submitted and Sponsored by - Please include Club or Homeclub if individual)*

Current Rule  - Reference - page and paragraph number in the  Current  Rulebook.

Page 40  Paragraph II_________________________________________________________

Current Rule Wording:  “A dog is not required to be steady at the retrieving line; however, it may have a collar, leash or line around its neck or may be hand-held to assist in achieving steadiness.”                                  

Proposed Change: 

__” The hunting retriever is required to be steady at the retrieving line. The hunting retriever may be hand held at the retrieving line to achieve steadiness.” ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Justification:  _To correct and match the previous started change on page 39 so the rules are consistent.                _

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Running Rules proposals may be sponsored and submitted by:  an HRC Club, U.K.C., Inc., Executive Committee Members, HRC/UKC Field Representatives and HRC Members in good standing.

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2020 Rule Proposal #11

Upland Tracking

Date: __03/18/2019______

Submitted by:______Jimbo Earles_______________________________________________

___________________Cajun HRC______________________________________Region:_10____

(Submitted and Sponsored by - Please include Club or Homeclub if individual)*

Current Rule  - Reference - page and paragraph number in the  Current  Rulebook.

Page 63  Paragraph III_________________________________________________________

Current Rule Wording:  “III. Tracking. If the judges use a drag scented path, it should not be less than forty (40) yards in length nor more than seventy-five (75) yards in length. It should also contain at least one distinguishable change in direction..”                                  

Proposed Change: 

Remove the verbiage ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Justification:  ___Tracking is not used.                        _____________________________________

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Running Rules proposals may be sponsored and submitted by:  an HRC Club, U.K.C., Inc., Executive Committee Members, HRC/UKC Field Representatives and HRC Members in good standing.

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2020 Rule Proposal #12

Upland Tracking #2

Date: ___03/18/2019_____

Submitted by:_______Jimbo Earles_____________________________________________

____________________Cajun HRC______________________________________Region:_10____

(Submitted and Sponsored by - Please include Club or Homeclub if individual)*

Current Rule  - Reference - page and paragraph number in the  Current  Rulebook.

Page 64  Paragraph III_________________________________________________________

Current Rule Wording:  “III. Tracking: The Upland hunting dog should be evaluated on its ability to find a scent trail and follow it to the bird. The dog is not required to stay exactly on the scent trail, but should demonstrate progress along the drag scented path to the dead bird or along the route of a running bird.  Voice or whistle commands may be used to encourage the dog to hunt, but hand signals should not be used once the dog is set on the beginning of the trail. Voice commands such as “back” or “over” would not be acceptable, but commands such as

“hunt ‘em up” or “find the bird” are acceptable.  Sufficient time should be given for the dog to work out the scent trail as long as it is making progress along the trail. If a dog strays completely out of the tracking area it may be called in and set again on the beginning of the trail. However, if the dog aimlessly hunts with no direction along the scent trail and has to continually be reset on the track the test may be failed.  Once the bird is found it should be retrieved and delivered to hand.”                                  

Proposed Change: 

Remove the verbiage ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Justification:  ___Tracking is not used.                        _____________________________________

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Running Rules proposals may be sponsored and submitted by:  an HRC Club, U.K.C., Inc., Executive Committee Members, HRC/UKC Field Representatives and HRC Members in good standing.

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2020 Rule Proposal #13

Multiple Stakes Entry

Date: _5-8-2017_________________

Submitted by:  Margo Ellis Region 14A

Sponsored by:  The clubs of Region 14A, including Missouri Headwater HRC, Treasure State HRC, Bitterroot HRC;  & Prado Basin HRC

Current Rule  - Reference - page and paragraph number in the  Rulebook. Current HRC rule book; Preamble; Definition of Licensed Hunts, Hunts section UKC/HRC Rules & Procedures pg 6; also Guidelines to Scheduling of License hunts, Section 9: Hunt Premiums; #5 UKC/HRC Rules & Procedures Pg21

Current Rule Wording:  Each dog is limited to one (1) entry per Licensed Hunt.

Proposed Change:  Removal of this wording from the Manual, allowing individuals the option to run multiple stakes with the same dog; if they choose.

Justification:  Region 14A has very few clubs and very few tests in any given year. At this time we only have 4 clubs, 3 in MT and 1 in CA; all separated by large geographical distances. Each club historically only holds 1 official HRC test a year, and sometimes might skip years. Access to neighboring Regions which also have limited clubs and tests, are also separated large geographical distance, requiring significant travel, to attend different tests. Because of this there is very little access to HRC, for new individuals who would like to become more familiar with the venue. We have had requests from both club members, and particularly new people, day of signups, those interested in trying the venue for the first time; to be able to double stake their individual dogs in different test levels. The justification being such that allowing individuals to run multiple stakes, would enable both the dogs and the handlers to get more experience, with the HRC and better understanding of the different HRC levels. Opening up this possibility, would also allow individuals more practice and access to HRC testing, at any single HRC event. This rule change has the potential to offer people more access to HRC style testing, and hopefully grow interest. Realistically for most people in region 14A there is only 1 local test a year, you might be able to understand how disconcerting it becomes to a new individual who has either no idea of the testing levels and most likely, a dog who is inbtw levels, deciding which level they should try. Then once they commit to a particular level, having to wait another year to try a different level.  It is our wish to provide handlers as much access as we can at any individual event so they can become familiar with all HRC has to offer including the various testing levels, so that new individuals will perhaps become infatuated enough with the HRC, to become active members, eventually expand into new clubs etc; Growing the individual club and HRC testing as a whole within our Region.

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2020 Rule Proposal #14

Seasoned Diversion

Date: _3-1-19_______________

Submitted by:_____Kenneth Farris_______________________________________________________

____On behalf of North Alabama  HRC_____________________________Region:___5___

(Submitted and Sponsored by - Please include Club or Homeclub if individual)*

Current Rule  - Reference - page and paragraph number in the  2019 Rulebook.

____page 44 item VII ___________________________________________________________________

Current Rule Wording:  ______________________________________________________________________

_PG 44_VII  A diversionary bird can be thrown after the walk-up, blind, or last retrieve of a double mark. If a Seasoned hunting retriever switches to the diversionary bird, it will not fail but will be scored lower by

the judge. The hunting retriever shall retrieve the diversionary bird._

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Proposed Change:  ___ A diversionary bird can be thrown after the walk-up, blind, or last retrieve of a double mark. The shot for the diversion may be fired by a designated gunner or the diversion thrower including primers used in the winger launching the diversion.  If a Seasoned hunting retriever switches to the diversionary bird, it will not fail but will be scored lower by

the judge. The hunting retriever shall retrieve the diversionary bird._

Justification:  ______For safety reasons.

Running Rules proposals may be sponsored and submitted by:  an HRC Club, U.K.C., Inc., Executive Committee Members, HRC/UKC Field Representatives and HRC Members in good standing.

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2020 Rule Proposals #15

Upland Flush

Date: 4/16/2019

SubmittedBY    David Carey  President of Green Valley HRC, Eugene, Oregon _____________________________________________________________________Region: 14

(Submitted and Sponsored by - Please include Club or Homeclub if individual)*

Current Rule  - Reference - page and paragraph number in the  2019 Rulebook.

_Page  64, Guidelines for judging upland hunt tests, paragraph ii. Quartering ____________________________________________________________________________

Current Rule Wording:  The upland hunting dog is expected to flush the bird.__

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Proposed Change:  ADD the following: The upland flusher dog is expected to flush the bird. The upland pointer dog is expected to hold the point and the handler will flush the bird. The handler must declare flusher or pointer to the judges prior to the start of the upland test. A point is defined as coming to a complete stop and holding position until released. A movement of the head is acceptable to follow a moving bird. The handler can signify a point by verbal, such as “ on point “ or raising an arm or hat.

Justification:  _ The trained abilities of an upland pointing dog are to point the bird, to maintain the point, be steady to flush, shot and fall when the handler flushes the bird for the dog. The number of pointing dogs running HRC Hunt Tests and wanting to run Upland Tests is increasing each year. In the past 2 years we have titled German Shorthairs, Vizslas, Weimaraners in our Started and Seasoned Hunt Tests. One German Shorthair is running Finished Tests. The Pointer Upland dogs have all the attributes of our Labs, Goldens, Boykins, Flat Coats, etcetera, except in the way they deal with upland birds. To broaden the execution of the flush to include a steady point, with the handler flushing the bird should be an accepted method of allowing the Pointer Upland dog to compete in the HRC Upland Test.

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2020 Rule Proposal #16

Failure Inform Time

                                                       Date: 2/27/2019

Submitted By Tom Weeks West MS HRC   Region: 5

Current Rule- Referece Page and Paragraph # Jan 2017 Rulebook Page 66, Line Item#29

Current Rule Wording: #29 Judges should ask a handler to pick up their dog, if that dog in the Judge's mind, as already failed and is creating bad habits or endangering itself. 

Proposed Change:   Judges, if in agreement, should inform a handler that their dog has failed at the time the failure has occurred. If the handler chooses, they may continue the test. However, in the judge's mind if the failed retriever is creating bad habits or endangering itself the Hanler will be asked to pick up the dog. In the case of the honor situation, if the handler chooses to continue the test, the failed dog on the honor bucket shall be placed on lead. Or a bye dog on a lead, should be used. 

Justification  Out of respect for a working hunter retriever, a previously failed retriever, (retriever Not in contention) should not interfere with the working retriever's test. 


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2020 Rule Proposal #17 

Finished Test Dog

SUBMITTED BY:       Karen Davis West Mississippi HRC_Region: 5_

Date: 2/28/2019

(Submitted and Sponsored by- Please include Club or Home club if individual)*1

CURRENT RULE •REFERENCE· PAGE AND PARAGRAPH NUMBER IN THE JANUARY 2017 RULEBOOK.

          UKC/HRC RULES FOR HUNTING RETRIEVER TESTS, 2017 EDITION. LAST PARAGRAPH PAGE 35, FIRST FEW SENTENCES PAGE 36 TEST DOGS


CURRENT RULE WORDING: _Use oftest dogs is required at all UKC/HRC licensed events.

This will enable judges to see how smoothly the mechanics of the tests will be executed, will give handlers a view of the test, will cause bird and drag back scent to be on the ground for all dogs, and will verify the usefulness of the test. Test dogs should be at the same level as the test, but may be at a single level higher than the test, provided they are not titled at a level higher than the test; i.e. a retriever with Fi shed points can be used for test dog for Seasoned as

long as they do not have an HR.CH title or a retriever with Seasoned poets can be used as a test dog for Started, as long as they do not have a title._  _  _  _  _  _  _  _  _  _  _  _  _  _  _  _  _  _  _  _  _  _  _  _  _  _  _  _  _

Proposed Change: Use of_test dogs is required at all UKC/HRC licensed events. This will enable judges

to see how smoothly the mechanics of the tests will be executed, will give handlers a view of the test, will cause bird and drag back scent to be on the ground for all dogs, and will verify the usefulness of the test. Test dogs should be at the same level as the test, but may be at a single level higher that the test, provided they are not titled at a level higher that the test; i.e. a retriever with Finished points can be used for test dog for Seasoned as long as they do not have an HRCH title or a retriever with Seasoned points can be used as a test dog for Started, as long as they do not have a title._A RETRIEVER WITH 1 GRAND PASS CAN BE USED FOR A TEST DOG FOR A FINISHED TEST, AS LONG AS THEYDO NOT HAVE A GRAND HUNTING RETRIEVER TITLE. A judge may run his or her

appropriately qualified dog as a test dog only in the class and flight they are

judging.     _   _   _   _   _   _   _   _   _   _   _   _   _   _   _   _   _   _   _   _   _   _   _   _   _   _   Justification: 

This then flows more in line with test dogs should be at the same level as the test.

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2020 Rule Proposal #18R

Dry Shot Popper

Date: April 9, 2019

Revised Date:  June 12, 2019

Submitted by: Dakota Hunting Retriever Club; Deb Anderson; President

Region:  8B

(Submitted and Sponsored by - Please include Club or Homeclub if individual)*

Current Rule  - Reference - page and paragraph number in the  2019 Rulebook.

Page 44, section X and Page 45 section V Fourth Paragraph

Current Rule Wording: 

Page 44; Section X - A dry shot popper shall be fired by the handler in the direction of the blind while the dog is at heel prior to the dog running the blind retrieve.

Page 45; Section V Paragraph 4 - A dry shot popper shall be fired by the handler in the direction of the blind while the dog is at heel immediately prior to the dog’s running the blind retrieve. The intent is to encourage the dog to run the blind

Proposed Change:  Remove ‘A’ dry shot popper shall be fired by the handler in the direction of the blind while the dog is at heel prior to the dog running the blind retrieve (page 44, section X) and also remove 'A’ dry popper shot shall be fired by the handler in the direction of the blind while the dog is at heel immediately prior to the dog's running the blind retrieve. The intent is to encourage the dog to run the blind. (Page 45, Section V, 4th paragraph)'

Justification:  The dry shot popper leads to confusion in the dog and there is no clear objective as what it accomplishes.  The young dogs get excited and the handlers spend time trying to line their dogs up for the blind

Running Rules proposals may be sponsored and submitted by:  an HRC Club, U.K.C., Inc., Executive Committee Members, HRC/UKC Field Representatives and HRC Members in good standing.

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2020 Rule Proposal #19R

Seasoned Diversion

Date: April 9, 2019

Revised Date:  June 12, 2019

Submitted by: Dakota Hunting Retriever Club; Deb Anderson; President

Region:  8B

(Submitted and Sponsored by - Please include Club or Homeclub if individual)*

Current Rule  - Reference - page and paragraph number in the  2019 Rulebook.

Page 44 section VII

Current Rule Wording: 

If a Seasoned hunting retriever switches to the diversionary bird, it will not fail but will be scored lower by the judge. The hunting retriever shall retrieve the diversionary bird.

Proposed Change:  If a Seasoned hunting retriever switches to the diversionary bird, it shall fail the test.

Justification:  Demonstrate control and if the handlers know it is a component of the test in which they could fail on then they will train for it. 

Running Rules proposals may be sponsored and submitted by:  an HRC Club, U.K.C., Inc., Executive Committee Members, HRC/UKC Field Representatives and HRC Members in good standing.


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2020 Rule Proposal 20R

Finished Upland 

Date: April 9, 2019

Revised Date:  June 12, 2019

Submitted by: Dakota Hunting Retriever Club; Deb Anderson; President

Region:  8B

(Submitted and Sponsored by - Please include Club or Homeclub if individual)*

Current Rule  - Reference - page and paragraph number in the  2019 Rulebook.

Page 47

Current Rule Wording:  page 47:  At the option of the judges, the hunt may include an Upland game test.  If an Upland game test is to be run, this option must be announced in the club’s premium.

Current Rule Wording: Page 50 section XII - The upland game test shall consist of a simulated walk-up hunt with a subsequent quartering or tracking test. The finished hunting retriever must be steady to wing and shot. Honoring of another hunting retiever is required. During this test the Finished hunting retriever will be required to locate and retriever game, as the judges shall direct.

Current Rule wording cont.: Page 51, Section VII - Quartering. The dog hunts in a radius ideally from 10 to 30 yards to the side and in front of the handler. The live bird is released...In the upland game test, quarter, tracking and walk-up can all be combined, at the discretion of the judges.

Proposed Change:  Completely eliminate the option for an Upland Test at the Finished level.

Justification:  Leave a component of an Upland with Upland Tests not with a Finished Test. 

Running Rules proposals may be sponsored and submitted by:  an HRC Club, U.K.C., Inc., Executive Committee Members, HRC/UKC Field Representatives and HRC Members in good standing.

HUNTING RETRIEVER CLUB, INC.

RUNNING RULE CHANGE PROPOSAL FORM

2020 Rule Proposal #21


Date:       3/12/19      

SUBMITTED BY:            Mike Brockman       Platte Valley HRC, Region 13     

Subject: Uncontrolled Break

CURRENT RULE - REFERENCE - PAGE AND PARAGRAPH NUMBER IN THE 2019 RULEBOOK. STARTED, PAGE 39, PARAGRAPH LABELED IMMEDIATE FAILURE

SEASONED, PAGE 44, PARAGRAPH LABELED IMMEDIATE FAILURE FINISHED, PAGE 50, PARAGRAPH LABELED IMMEDIATE FAILURE UPLAND,    PAGE 62, PARAGRAPH LABELED IMMEDIATE FAILURE

CURRENT RULE WORDING:

STARTED: IMMEDIATE FAILURE The hunting retriever shall immediately fail the test if a gunner or bird boy is required to help or assist in any way. A bird unfit for the table resulting from hard-mouth shall be grounds for failing the test. Failure to pass any hunting test will not prevent a hunting retriever from participating in subsequent tests unless the handler is unsafe in handling a gun.

Seasoned: IMMEDIATE FAILURE The Seasoned hunting retriever shall immediately fail the test if a gunner or bird boy is required to help or assist in any way. A bird unfit for the table resulting from hard-mouth shall be grounds for failing the test. Failure to pass any hunting test will not prevent a hunting retriever from participating in subsequent tests unless the handler uses a gun in an unsafe manner.

Finished:   IMMEDIATE FAILURE The hunting retriever shall immediately fail the test if a gunner or bird boy is required to help or assist in any way. A bird unfit for the table resulting from hard-mouth shall be ground for failing the test. Failure to pass any hunting test will not prevent a hunting retriever from participating in subsequent tests, unless the handler is unsafe in handling a gun.

Upland:   IMMEDIATE FAILURE The hunting retriever shall immediately fail the test if a gunner or bird boy is required to help or assist in any way. A bird unfit for the table resulting from hard- mouth shall be grounds for failing the test. Failure to pass any hunting test will not prevent a hunting retriever from participating in subsequent tests, unless the handler is unsafe in handling a gun.


PROPOSED CHANGE:

STARTED: IMMEDIATE FAILURE The hunting retriever shall immediately fail the test if a gunner or bird boy is required to help or assist in any way. A bird unfit for the table resulting from hard-mouth shall be grounds for failing the test. Failure to pass any hunting test will not prevent a hunting retriever from participating in subsequent tests unless the handler is unsafe in handling a gun. A break results in an immediate failure.

Seasoned: IMMEDIATE FAILURE The Seasoned hunting retriever shall immediately fail the test if a gunner or bird boy is required to help or assist in any way. A bird unfit for the table resulting from hard-mouth shall be grounds for failing the test. Failure to pass any hunting test will not prevent a hunting retriever from participating in subsequent tests unless the handler uses a gun in an unsafe manner. A break results in an immediate failure.

Finished:   IMMEDIATE FAILURE The hunting retriever shall immediately fail the test if a gunner or bird boy is required to help or assist in any way. A bird unfit for the table resulting from hard-mouth shall be ground for failing the test. Failure to pass any hunting test will not prevent a hunting retriever from participating in subsequent tests, unless the handler is unsafe in handling a gun. A break results in an immediate failure.

Upland:   IMMEDIATE FAILURE The hunting retriever shall immediately fail the test if a gunner or bird boy is required to help or assist in any way. A bird unfit for the table resulting from hard- mouth shall be grounds for failing the test. Failure to pass any hunting test will not prevent a hunting retriever from participating in subsequent tests, unless the handler is unsafe in handling a gun. A break results in an immediate failure.

JUSTIFICATION: This is much more of a rule clarification than it is a rule change. Although the rulebook doesn’t clearly state it in any level except the Grand level (failure for controlled break), it is commonly practiced that an uncontrolled break is an immediate failure in all levels. Also there are many places in the Seminar Manual where it clearly states that “The retriever will be failed for breaking at all levels of testing.”

The Rulebook, the Seminar Manual and common practice should be consistent.

HUNTING RETRIEVER CLUB, INC.

AFFILIATED WITH

UNITED KENNEL ClUB, INC.

Conceived by Hunters for Hunters

RUNNING RULE CHANGE PROPOSAL FORM

2020 Rule Proposal #22

Upland Shooting Distance

SUBMITTED by:          Allan Gadoury

Date: 3_12_5_12_0_19

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M_T_2_0 Region: 14A

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CURRENT RULE - REFERENCEPAGE AND PARAGRAPH NUMBER IN THE RULEBOOK,

Rule - Page 63, paragraph 3 line 19

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CURRENT RULE WoRolNG:      Judges should instruct gunners to let the bird fly off a short distance (i.e. 1Oto 20 yards) before shooting and to make every ffort not to drop the bird at the dogs feet. A bird dropped a few feet in front of a dog has a much different effect on steadiness than one dropped 10-20 yards away.


PROPOSED CHANGE:    Judges should instruct gunners to let the bird fly off  a· short distance i.e. a minimum of 15 to 20 yards away and bird should be shot a minimium of 20 yards from the gun as if you were in hunting. A bird dropped a few feet away in front of a dog has a much different effect on steadiness then one dropped 15 to 20 yards away.

Justification: This change is necessary because shooting birds at close range is an unsportsmanlike practive that renders the bird unfit for the table. More than once there have been birds shot within a few feet of the gunner and dog.   This is the human

equivalent of hard mouth.

HuNTING RETRIEVER CLuB, INC.

RUNNING RULE CHANGE PROPOSAL FORM

2020 Rules Proposal #23

Upland Popper Shot 


SUBMITTED Bv:         Allan Gadoury

Date:    3_12_5_12_0_19

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CURRENT RULE ·REFERENCE• PAGE AND PARAGRAPH NUMBER IN THE 2013 14 RULEBOOK.


Rule - Page 62, paragraph 2 line 8                                     -von-1c-7

CURRENT RULE Wording:       The handler will shoot the gun (popper) and the gunners may kill the bird


PROPOSED   CHANGE:      The hunter must shoot the gun (popper) before the gunners may kill the bird.


Justification:     There have been several times when judges have allowed the gunners to shoot the birds before the handler has fired the popper. This is a clarification on the rules.




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